Debrah ‘Madusa’ Miceli Talks Vince McMahon, WWE Comeback & Monster Vehicles
Nowadays girls in WWE are headlining WrestleMania. But it surely wasn’t all the time this manner as Debrah ‘Madusa‘ Miceli explains in her new autobiography she wrote with creator Greg Oliver referred to as “The Woman Who Would Be King: The Madusa Story.”
Whether or not it was below the identify Madusa or Alundra Blayze, the tough-as-nails star constructed a Corridor of Fame profession in professional wrestling in the course of the Eighties and Nineties. The previous girls’s champion helped break glass ceilings. Within the course of, she created a model and helped open doorways for individuals who got here in future generations.
Then after discovering success in a single male-dominated business, Madusa jumped into one other, driving monster vehicles. The “Queen of Carnage” would go on to grow to be a two-time Monster Jam champ and produce new followers to the distinctive world of motorsports. Right here throughout Girls’s Historical past Month, the trailblazer displays on her journey and the adjustments she helped deliver.
You speak publicly within the e-book about your powerful upbringing and the adversity you confronted all through your profession. Was it therapeutic to get it this all on the market?
Debrah Miceli: I don’t know if the phrase therapeutic or aid or any of that’s appropriate. It’s price mentioning. I really feel that I’ve been stifled for thus lengthy in each careers. Mainly within the leisure business and plenty of issues in life, individuals don’t speak due to the concern of dropping what they’ve constructed or have…Each time you’re up-and-coming in any business, you chunk your tongue or lip and you retain quiet. They don’t say something due to what they’ve and what they earn themselves and concern dropping it. I really feel scripting this e-book will assist others which can be misplaced and considering doing what is correct. We’re in a day and age the place it’s extra acceptable to talk up and are available ahead. However there are nonetheless repercussions. It’s all the time good to have backups. That’s why I‘ve had that battle or flight and have backups as a result of I all the time knew my days had been numbered. You’ll be able to by no means anticipate to be on high and have a really loud voice most instances.
An overarching theme was you knew your price and didn’t compromise your beliefs for a simple payday. For instance, you discuss the way you turned down returning to WWE in 1998 since you noticed the writing on the wall of what probably working with Sable would imply. You open up about Playboy if you determined to not give them the authorization to run photographs.
Peeling again the onion was attempting at instances…As issues carried by means of and the alternatives that got here up, the fast fixes of the cash I may have made by posing for Playboy and getting that six-digit earnings and what it may have performed for me as an alternative of being filth poor. It was a alternative of conserving my integrity intact and conserving who I used to be and what I believed in. It’s a really onerous determination as a result of you’ve a alternative of feeding your loved ones or discovering one other route. And people are the routes I selected, and it was troublesome.
There was a sure notion for girls in professional wrestling again within the “Perspective Period.” You discuss wrestler Jerry Lawler’s usually sexist commentary bothered you. How do you look at the moment now?
It is rather troublesome to attempt to clarify eras should you haven’t lived them. With individuals immediately and children rising up in immediately’s world listening to that stuff that was mentioned or informed or performed is nearly unrecognizable. It could by no means fly immediately. We’re in a special world and tradition and upbringing. I’m not defending that period or the individuals although however we’re a product of our surroundings. It’s about decision-making and selecting. All of us have a alternative. Figuring out the best way to decide. I made these selections as a result of I knew what was proper and unsuitable and what was proper for me. At the moment that’s what they selected. Not defending Lawler once more, however I’m saying in that period he was in all probability informed what to do however that was his persona ….If you end up compelled up towards a machine, he had a alternative and there have been different commentators on the time that selected to not be that means.
You inform tales of what shady promoters tried with you. In the case of Vince McMahon, how would you describe your relationship over time working for him?
I used to be all the time a Vince woman, that means I used to be an organization woman. Which means I used to be the one he may rely on so far as displaying up, being on time, and having badass matches…On the similar time, I keep in mind on the brink of go to a gig for WWE and getting a knock on the door and getting a FedEx delivered saying you’re not wanted anymore. Vince by no means tried any lascivious acts towards me in any respect. He was all the time good to me, however my departure sucked ass as a result of I used to be the chosen one, and really feel that any firm that chooses you to be a champion is a mirrored image of how they really feel about you. It was an honor to be the champion.
By the identical token, you shine a lightweight on how Monster Jam was treating the drivers throughout your time. You fought onerous for all the things from catering to having your individual Sizzling Wheels Madusa truck. What sort of response have you ever gotten from revisiting this side of your profession?
I’m not writing about Monster Jam, however writing about my expertise with Monster Jam. I’m speaking about my very own expertise and job. I’m not right here to defame anybody. It’s not about them. It’s not about WWE. It’s about me. It’s my story. I do wish to voice that [Monster Jam] is a good alternative as a result of it’s a greater place now. You hope. I really imagine there are good individuals there, even in WWE and throughout. It takes that paver to do this. It wasn’t simply me, however different individuals as nicely. It needs to be that sturdy, loud voice person who once they stroll, they shake the bottom. I’ve all the time been that particular person.
You’re approaching 60 and mentioned you’re in nice form. You by no means technically misplaced the WWE girls’s championship in 1995. We’re seeing Sting and others competing at this age on the male facet. I believe if anybody deserves one final match or run it’s you.
I might like to have a retirement match. I’m not dissing any period, however there are different eras earlier than the “Perspective Period.” There may be nonetheless a girl below WWE legend’s contract that they’ll do one thing with. However they selected to not. A retirement match could be great. We see Trish Stratus and Lita on a regular basis. I believe these women are nice. However that’s all we see. I’m not sick of them. I’m simply sick of seeing simply them. I’ve excessive respect for these two girls. However rattling it, if it was them at 60, they’d be pounding the pavement simply as onerous as I’m.
Who could be your dream opponent?
It must be anyone I can have an ideal match with. That if I bump my head and forgot one thing they’ll carry the match. Something can occur. It could possibly be a Nattie, Beth Phoenix, a Rhea Ripley. Everybody desires to see Charlotte Flair and Madusa. I nonetheless suppose that might be phenomenal.
“The Girl Who Would Be King: The Madusa Story” is on the market now.
Catch Madusa and Alundra Blayze matches on Peacock